Monday, March 20, 2006

Same-Sex Married Couples Divorcing at High Rates in Scandinavia

(March 2006) While legalizing same-sex marriage continues to be a political lightning rod in the United States, a new study in the journal Demography says such marriages have scant participation and high rates of divorce in Sweden and Norway, where they have been legal for at least a decade.

The study is the first in-depth look at the demographics of same-sex marriages in these countries, where gay and lesbian couples may enter into registered partnerships that are legally identical to heterosexual marriages—including divorce procedures. But most gay couples aren't taking advantage of the right to marry: There were 1,293 same-sex partnerships in Norway between 1993 and 2001, compared with 196,000 heterosexual marriages during the same period (a ratio of 7 to every 1,000). In Sweden, the ratio was even lower—about 5 same-sex marriages for every 1,000 straight ones.

And those gays and lesbians who did get married were far more likely to get divorced. The risk of male partnerships splitting up was 50 percent more than for heterosexual marriages, and lesbian partnerships dissolved at twice the rate of male ones. The authors say that these figures are not surprising given that gay people have felt far less normative pressure to marry. As for why female couples split up more than male ones, the authors speculate that women in these partnerships are more sociodemographically similar, which means less-clear relational power structures, and generally more sensitive to the quality of relationships than men.

–Robert Lalasz, PRB Senior Editor

Reference

Gunnar Andersson et al., "The Demographics of Same-Sex Marriages in Norway and Sweden," Demography 43, no. 1 (2006): 79-98.

So what does this article say to me?I think that same sex marriages should be legalised as from the situation in Scandinavia we can see that gays/lesbians can't handle marriage at all.The norms of homosexual relationships (short term commitment and promiscuity are not compatible with the long term goals of marriage) add to this the lack of predefined roles and you have the recipe for trouble.In hetero relationships roles are clear cut and lately with the coming of things like feminism that blurred traditional roles did we begin to see the high divorce rates that we see today.In gay relationships who is the head and who is the tail?At times the dominant party in the bedroom is not the dominant party when it comes to decision making or in many cases the roles constantly shift thus setting the relationship on a sandy foundation.We now know that even in an environment with no pressure like Scandinavia gays/lesbians dont want to marry and even when they do they are not going to last.So let's stop panicking and give them what they want besides which marriage isn't that great for straight people anymore...

8 Comments:

At 3/22/2006 06:58:00 AM, Blogger KenyanMusings said...

First Yaaay! I know I should not be doing the groupie thing here, but ah! What the heck. Thanks for the nice things you said over there at my little green place.
Now, about this...and you were right, we would argue. A LOT.

It is true what you say, that when you give people what they want, they lose interest in it…

The figures? Me they surprise me. That people who hunker after marriage at the risk of being frowned upon by society actually end up divorcing. Shouldn’t it be that these people should be the ones doing twice the extra work to make their marraiges work angalau to prove the world wrong?

I am with you that same sex marriages should be legalised. Illegal or not, people will still do whoever they want. Big deal, let’s talk poverty in Africa instead.

What I do not agree with you, and P.s are you homophobic by the way?…..is your opinion that
‘gays/lesbians can't handle marriage at all’ and
“The norms of homosexual relationships (short term commitment and promiscuity are not compatible with the long term goals of marriage” .

I am sorry, Not all same sex relationship are promiscuous in norm.That is so judgemental I do not even believe you have the audacity to say that!!! Haiya!

I am a feminist in as far as reasonableness goes. I adore men, I do not hate them, They rock, but I know what I can do, and I will not take rubbish because I am a woman. Deal.

What do you mean traditional roles? The head? In the sense that the woman be subordinate to a man? That the woman’s place is second? The tail?
If you think that the woman sitting back and letting the man make decisions will save people from divorce you are dead wrong!! Wtf!!? I mean dude please….you will not have divorce..but you will have women snapping and slitting their husbands throats. You know why? Because she was stifled, by a man making decisions, especially the ones they could have made better together and he making horrible ones like wtf were you thinking kind, that is so obvious…but then again, we have idiots wanting to make decisions just because they are men. Case in point…parliament.

Then again…I stand corrected. I prolly need to understand what you mean by “ In hetero relationships roles are clear cut and lately with the coming of things like feminism that blurred traditional roles did we begin to see the high divorce rates that we see today”.

And P.S Just because people do not divorce and they stay together, does not mean they are happy. DUH!

And IMHO, the high divorce rates, are primarily as a result of changing times, and a more liberal society. That divorce and /or separation is more widely accepted as a way out of an unhappy marriage, as opposed to the past when people stayed for the fear of the stigma that came with it.

Anyway, about that crush…..

 
At 3/22/2006 10:37:00 AM, Blogger Joseph Walking said...

interesting read though i have some questions for you guys since you said same sex marriages should be legalised. Illegal or not, people will still do whoever they want-then why legalize it si they just continue if people will do what they want why do gays keep running and throwing their sexuality in our faces?

What do you mean traditional roles? The head? In the sense that the woman be subordinate to a man? i am not trying to pick a fight but the man is the head there is no such things as equality.

 
At 3/22/2006 08:34:00 PM, Blogger Instigator said...

@ Kenyan Musings
Scandinavia is one of the most gay tolerant places in the world.So if they cant make it there then what does it bode for the more conservative areas of the world?I am not homophobic at all!I do not fear gays/lesbians I just dont approve of their unnatural lifestyle and habits and will not tire to say it even though I will look politically incorrect.
I dont know which gays you observe but free sex is the norm in gay relationships.Why do you think they have cruising and sex clubs as the norm?Hetero people may have sex clubs and swinging but it is not approved of and operates underground.
Traditional roles do not mean that women are subservient to men.It just means that in some situations the man's decision is law and in some the woman's decision is law.Women have long looked down on women who play traditional roles like housewives and yet research has shown that they are far less happier now that they have all the autonomy that they asked for.Feminists have made fathers null and void.It is accepted for a family to be mother,child and paycheck.Feminists have been running around peddling such drivel like "are men neccesary" by maureen dowd.Divorce doesnt always have to do with unhappy marriages but the fact that women want it all (a romance novel existance) and when they cant get it they are quick to cash out of the marriage.Marriage is hard work but it seems today's princesses dont believe that after reading mags like cosmo that say you can have it all!In fact I am going to have to post about that and why women who have bought into the feminist pot of cow piss are more unhappy then our parents generation.
@ joe
I too tire of gays throwing their sexuality in my face.I dont care if you are gay and I dont want to know!I dont run around screaming about how straight I am.I believe a man can be the head and there can still be equality as long as the woman is considered and plays a role in decision making.When you have two decision makers and both disagree then nothing gets done, that is why even the UN has given some countries veto powers.In some areas the woman should have veto powers and in others the man should according to how the split the roles and decision making powers.Men dont know everything and neither do women.

 
At 3/22/2006 08:57:00 PM, Blogger KenyanMusings said...

Joe, I look at it from the point of view that, legalise it,and it will stop being an issue. As long as it is not legal, the same sex couples continue to act like underdogs, the aggrieved.... and we wanna throw legal at them...they will go away.

Yes, the man is the head. For me at least. I take pride in being the damsel in distress.
I believe in equality/equity in as far as according opportunities to all who can undertake them irrespective of their sex, within reasonable limits. So no, I will not ask that I undertake heavy duty construction, because you know, I am pretty and really tiny and can't lift stones.....(digressing), but if there are women that can do it, they should get a chance to. Equity/ equality....either or not the point.

Bottom line,..... as long as no one pulls the 'you are a woman' card to stop me from acheieving my potential, or doing things I am damn well capable of doing....we will all get along.

 
At 3/22/2006 09:05:00 PM, Blogger Instigator said...

@ Kenyan musings
Seems that at least there is something that we agree on as regard decision making in the home.As for gays like I said let's give them what they want and they will see its not that great.Besides I get tired of their moaning.As for playing the woman card I think it is more trouble then it is worth!

 
At 3/22/2006 11:56:00 PM, Blogger kritik said...

all gay bastards should simply rot in hell.
same-sex marriages??
which jinga came up with this???
Mungu atawachoma kama sodoma na gomorrah!!!
anyway such b.s has no place in society- kenyan society that is...
i remember seeing on KTN sometime back a feature on two gay dudes. one actually claimed ati he was born that way!
what a load of crap!
homosexuality is a disease ( and am being generous..)
people who claim to be gay are simply screwed up and confused!

 
At 3/23/2006 09:04:00 PM, Blogger KenyanMusings said...

@ Instigator "It just means that in some situations the man's decision is law and in some the woman's decision is law"...Illustrate please.

@ Kritik.I do not necesarilly agree with you. I do not think you should be that bitter over an issue that does not concern you, unless of course you are scared of something?

 
At 3/24/2006 08:39:00 AM, Blogger Instigator said...

@ kritik
I may not have great love for gays but if giving them marriage will shut them up then I am all for it!I am tired of their moaning!But yes homosexuality is abnormality!
@ kenyanmusing
I am not in the mood to illustrate the obvious.

 

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