Sunday, February 19, 2006

A classic.......

The Recurring Pattern, Of Modern History.


The Recurring Pattern, Of Modern History by NiceGuy ...

Step 1: Men invent a new industry or technology.

Step 2: As soon as the new industry or technology becomes super-safe to use and/or glamorous enough to be trendy, small numbers of women (brave "pioneers"!) become interested in it.

Step 3: Brave pioneering women start to discover the new field isn't a bowl of cherries.

Step 4: Brave pioneering women get their feelings hurt and complain that men have developed the industry/field to suit themselves and have unfairly shut women out of their private little boy's club.

Step 5: After court papers are filed, men start to create special programs to lower standards and advance the number of women to top positions in the field while paying less attention to such irrelevant things as qualifications and ability.

Step 6: After women achieve a number of high-level positions in the field, they begin gloating that men have lost their edge and no longer have what it takes to compete in this brave, new world of 'ekwalitee'.

Step 7: Repeat.

13 Comments:

At 2/20/2006 12:57:00 AM, Blogger Nakeel said...

Lool at the "ekwalitee" world like the no. 6... N its true..
Lovely week

 
At 2/20/2006 08:25:00 AM, Blogger Instigator said...

Have a good week too!Yeah human beings esp women are so interesting!

 
At 2/21/2006 12:47:00 AM, Blogger Kenyangal said...

Why would making something easier to understand or easier to use reduce its quality?

 
At 2/21/2006 07:46:00 AM, Blogger Instigator said...

@ kenyangal
how do I start?Firstly more often then not making something easier to understand or use cheapens it's quality and lessens its versatility.Let me use IT terms Frontpage comes with Microsoft Windows.What it does is that it makes web design easy by doing all the back end work for you so that you dont have to learn html.But as a result of it doing all the back end work is that more often then not the sites made using frontpage are simple and crappy plus if you have to clean up the backend it's a pain as frontpage puts in so much unecessary code making the documents to big and incompatible with some browsers.
I could give you loads of examples.If you want quality it is best to work from the ground up and not hop onto the train at some advantageous point!

 
At 2/21/2006 10:07:00 AM, Blogger Kenyangal said...

probably microsoft developed frontpage not ecause they want to make it easier for women.. i know many women that write code and work with html, no problems.. maybe they developed Front page to make it easier for the masses (both men and women,) to create websites. So it makes more money sense for microsoft to develop products that can be used by everyone, not only people (both men and women) with specialised IT knowledge. But those that want good websites can still hire IT profesionals (women included) with the skills required to build a website from scratch.

 
At 2/21/2006 04:47:00 PM, Blogger Instigator said...

@ Kenyangal
I do concur that not all men are code gurus but do you know that when it comes to hard core coding and computer language not simple stuff like html and java women are a major minority.Remember what Larry Summers said about women and science?It may have been harsh and the reason he is stepping down but has some truth to it.Look at this article when you can http://chronicle.com/free/v52/i19/19a03501.htm
I could get hold of loads of other articles for you.

 
At 2/22/2006 07:27:00 AM, Blogger Kenyangal said...

I do agree with the article. but its not the fact that women can't do it, (the fact that 17% are women graduates proves that they can) Its that the women were brought up differently and are therefore not particulary attracted to disciplines like computer science. Also because of the history of discrimintation, i.e. 100 years ago women were not allowed into certain fields, I think these fields were developed in ways that make it easy for men to understand, you know linear thinking and all that, so now that psychology has progressed and see that women approach problems differently the concepts can be kept the same but you can have different ways of teaching and changing the way you teach something to make it easier for someone that looks at things differently. It does not mean that the concept itself is changed or the quality of the thing is reduced.. its still the same item, explained differently. Finally having an attitude like yours is what would keep your daughter away from subjects and professions like computer science and engineering, despite the fact that she could be better gifted for that field than your son. I mean when a little girl is born and when a little boy is born they are the same but immediately people pigeon hole them and project their own thoughts on them and shape who they becaome (oh! Its a girl! She needs pink toys and a pink room and teddy bears, oh she's so delicate be gentle,oh jane!! girls don't talk so loudly/ get dirty/argue/ compete/ play football/ understand mathematics/ get computer code)

 
At 2/22/2006 08:08:00 PM, Blogger Instigator said...

Doesn't 17% show that few can.Also most of these 17% rarely last in the field for a long time.Whether we like it or not the fact that men and women's minds work differently means that there are things that men will do better then women and vice versa.I mean having to change whole pre-established concepts and ways of doing things ie engineering to suit women when they have been functioning perfectly well for decades just goes to show how women can't adapt their thought process to fit in and suceed in those fields.IfI had a daughter and she showed an aptitude and passion for science all well and good I would encourage her to pursue it, but did you know that research has shown that when you place young girls and boys who havent played with toys before in a room with toys; girls more often then not gravitate towards dolls and teddies that they can nuture and talk to while boys play with bricks,cars, planes and the sort.

 
At 2/23/2006 03:47:00 PM, Blogger Kenyangal said...

No the 17% shows that despite all odds stacked up against them these women still did it, without these odds the number could have been more like 50. Your daughter probably wouldn't show the aptitude to science based on your mentality and how you'd treat her as she grows up and I didnt say that engineering concepts need to be changed, i said HOW they are presented, so its the same concept but a different explanation. BY THE WAY I loved dolls while growing up and had a collection but we also had a really cool donkey kong game which I didn't particularly like yet I had the highest score on it for the longest time (My bro eventually was the first one to complete the game but he was five years older anyway and soon after i completed the game too and none of my other brothers ever finished it.) Just because the girls don't gravitate towards the planes and cars doesnt mean their brains can't get how they function, if a woman wants to she can do anything she wants to do

 
At 2/24/2006 06:35:00 AM, Blogger Instigator said...

Did you know that women who work in sciences have a shorter career span then men.In UK they followed a group of medical school graduates after 7 years they found that none of the women were working full time and some had even stopped working, and all the men were working full time.Hmmmm seems it's not as easy as it seemed in class is it?
As for my "daugher" not getting my support if she chose to go into science.I unlike many mothers who try to live their dreams through their daughters would steer as opposing to push her in what she should do. if a woman wants to she can do anything she wants to do of course!Like flying and walking on water.

 
At 2/24/2006 08:39:00 AM, Blogger Kenyangal said...

Like flying or walking in water? (talk about hitting below the belt) well anyway, there are boats and planes created for that

 
At 2/24/2006 02:11:00 PM, Blogger Instigator said...

Many women in this day and age seem to think oestrogen is the key to doing all things.It isn't hence the comment.Men and women have diverse qualities that make some tasks easier or harder.Some introspection as opposed to screams of "girl power!" is clearly called for.......

 
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